Guillermo del Toro explores the theme of fascism in his Pinocchio

(Los Angeles) When director Guillermo del Toro signed on 15 years ago to make a dark take on the famous tale Pinocchiohe decided to place the puppets and their creator in the fascist universe of the 1930s.


The characters of the old wood sculptor Geppetto and his exuberant slender-nosed puppet, Pinocchio, taken from an 1883 Italian novel and popularized by Disney, thus find themselves propelled into Mussolini’s Italy of military salutes, strict conformity and violent machismo in the animated film which is released on Netflix on December 9.

“I wanted (to set the film) at a time when behaving like a puppet was a good thing,” Guillermo del Toro told AFP in early November on the sidelines of the American Film Institute festival in Los Angeles.

“I wanted Pinocchio to disobey,” added the Mexican director. “That (Pinocchio), who is the only puppet, does not act like a puppet. »

“I thought that given the theme, it was perfect”.

If the fabric of fascism seems particularly adapted to the current global political context, it was just as relevant when he conceived the project several years ago, underlined Guillermo del Toro.

“It concerns me, because it is something that humanity seems to be returning to,” continued the filmmaker, who has already dealt with the issue of fascism in his previous Gothic works, The Devil’s Backbone (2001) and Pan’s Labyrinth (2006), which take place in Franco’s Spain.

Fascism is “always present in the background, or in the foreground”, according to Mr. del Toro.

“Kaleidoscopic”

The director tried to sell his interpretation of Pinocchio to Hollywood studios and producers for years, before Netflix finally bought the rights in 2018.

“I fought to make (this film) for half of my career,” he said.

The stop-motion animated feature took more than 1,000 days to shoot.

the stop motionknown for its difficulty, is one of the oldest techniques in cinema which consists of taking successive photos of inanimate objects to give them the illusion of movement.

For Guillermo del Toro, the use of computer-generated imagery, as seen in the latest live-action remakes of Disney classics, was never an option.

“It was very smart, in my opinion, to stage a story about a puppet with puppets, and the puppets thinking that they are not puppets”, detailed Mr. del Toro.

“It’s kind of a very beautiful kaleidoscopic telescoping.”

Maternal heritage

If the filmmaker, Oscar winner for his fantastic film The Shape of Water in 2018, has always been fascinated by animation, this is his first such achievement.

“In North America, animation is seen a bit more as a genre for kids,” noted Guillermo del Toro.

“One of the things that I think everyone is trying to change, not just us, is saying, ‘Animation is a movie. Animation is acting. Animation is art,” he insisted.

“Stop-motion” allows “to explore particularly touching and deeply spiritual things”, but it is a “technique that is on the verge of extinction all the time”, noted Mr. del Toro. “There are only mad fanatics to bind to keep her alive.”

Whether Pinocchio interested in the relationship between father and son, Guillermo del Toro became fascinated by the mischievous wooden puppet as a child thanks to his mother, to whom he was extremely close.

“I used to collect Pinocchio-related items… My mother and I saw it together when I was very young and she kept giving me Pinocchio all my life,” he recalled.

Her mother died last month, a day before the film’s international premiere in London.


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