Quebec distilleries | “We live or die with the SAQ”

The St. Laurent Distillery accuses the state monopoly of being the gravedigger of local businesses through poor supply management.


By allowing all Quebec spirits to have the same visibility, the SAQ is stifling innovative local businesses, say Joël Pelletier and Jean-François Cloutier, owners of the St. Laurent Distillery.

Last month, this Bas-du-Fleuve company took shelter from its creditors.

Distillers sign a letter1 where they accuse the SAQ, through its poor management of supply, of pulling the rug out from under the feet of companies which, under other conditions, would be profitable.

At the heart of their criticisms is the fact that the SAQ offers all products from local distilleries. As there are more and more, this reduces the space for everyone. If a distillery wants to regain space, however, it can create a new drink. What many do, simply to recover sales.

“When a distillery sees that distribution is declining, despite the fact that the products are in demand, what choices are left for them to survive? adds Joël Pelletier, who is also president of the Union québécoise des microdistilleries, in an interview.

According to Mr. Pelletier, producers who see their colleagues launch five new products decide to do the same, simply to recover shelf space at the SAQ.

Nicolas Duvernois, who is behind the popular drinks Pur Vodka and Romeo’s Gin, believes that the problem of Quebec spirits is much larger than the management of the supply of the SAQ.

“The first problem is the market,” he says. In the early 2010s, there were three or four microdistilleries in Quebec. Today, there are more than 70 producing more than 650 products. »


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Nicolas Duvernois, CEO of Duvernois Esprits Créatives, the company behind Romeo’s Gin and Pur Vodka

However, he says, Quebecers do not consume a lot of spirits. “We have a huge offer for a very small market. In the United States, 52% of sales are spirits. We are 5%. Just the rosé wine, it’s almost 7%. »

Distillers who start now are doomed to innovate, says Nicolas Duvernois. Those who want to follow the trends arrive too late. Notwithstanding the quality of the product.

There are currently around 200 Quebec gins in the SAQ directory. Industry observers agree on one point: it’s too much.

Too many offers

The SAQ is fully aware of this situation.

“Five years ago, gin had the wind in its sails with growth of 20% to 25% over five consecutive years,” says Simon Bourbeau, category director for Quebec products at the SAQ.

According to him, maturity has been reached, but the offer of gin and distilleries has continued.

“We find ourselves today with a very competitive market in Quebec spirits,” says Simon Bourbeau, who recalls in passing that it was the industry itself that had asked for a relaxation of the marketing rules.

What Joël Pelletier does not deny. “Now, it was not a request from the industry to tell the SAQ to remove any restrictions or remove any call for tenders to do an open bar. »


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Joël Pelletier and Jean-François Cloutier, co-owners of the St. Laurent Distillery

Gin St. Laurent, which was once distributed in more than 300 SAQ branches, is now only distributed in around 100, despite its popularity, because it gives way to its competitors. “In Quebec, we live or die with the SAQ,” says Joël Pelletier.

Faced with this crisis in Quebec spirits, the SAQ is showing an openness to reviewing its way of doing things and is already studying the market to find lasting solutions.

“We have always been great collaborators with the industry, we have supported it from the start, maintains Simon Bourbeau. Spirits is such a fast-moving industry. Trends are dynamic. We are not going to let the industry down today. We will move forward with them. »

However, for the Distillerie du St. Laurent, and others, it is midnight minus one.

For two years, I have been telling the SAQ that we are headed for a precipice. Imagine the herd of bison heading for the precipice. That’s us. The SAQ tells us that it sees it, but that politically, it does not want to be the executioner of Quebec distilleries. In other words, she does not want to remove products, even if they do not perform well.

Joël Pelletier, president of the Union québécoise des microdistilleries

Binding laws

The St. Laurent Distillery will not be the only one to find itself in a situation of insolvency, by the admission of its owners.

In 2022, two-thirds of small distilleries in Quebec were in deficit, according to the Union québécoise des microdistilleries.

Several companies that have invested in their infrastructure and that rely on direct sales and agrotourism are already in financial difficulty, estimates Joël Pelletier.


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Unlike Quebec winegrowers, distillers here cannot distribute their products anywhere other than the SAQ. And at the distillery, they have to sell them at the same price as at the SAQ.

In Quebec, the law obliges the manufacturer who sells his bottle to the distillery – which has been permitted since 2018 – to offer it at the same price as at the SAQ.

For example, if the manufacturer sells his bottle for $10 at the SAQ and it is retailed for $40 in the outlets, he will also have to sell the bottle for $40 in his tasting room, explains Joël Pelletier.

The producer has a discount (around $2) on this bottle sold on site, which doesn’t even cover operating costs or credit card charges, he says.

This is why few distillers decide to sell on site, unlike Quebec winegrowers, who can also sell in grocery stores and in specialized stores, which is impossible for distillers.

According to Joël Pelletier, if it were more profitable, small distillers would certainly choose this avenue, which would unclog the SAQ network.

His colleague Nicolas Duvernois approves this request. He believes, in fact, that the distiller selling to his home should only charge sales tax on his drink. However, he also reminds that any good entrepreneur must do a serious market analysis before launching a product.

A distillery that decides to go ahead with a new gin in Quebec must know that the market is already saturated, he says, and that, like it or not, the SAQ is a business partner. obligatory.

“I hope that all the microdistillers who have started in recent years have done their homework. And if you do your homework, you see that there is a state monopoly that controls sales and distribution, that there is very limited shelf space, that it takes major investments for installations and a minimal cost. You absolutely have to make the volume. »

Four possible solutions proposed by Nicolas Duvernois

Help from Quebec

Quebec should allow distillers to deliver their products to restaurants here, as winemakers can do.

Crown corporations

State corporations, such as the Casino de Montréal (Loto-Québec), should favor alcohol from here. Even the parliament restaurant.

Sold online

Distillers should be able to sell directly to their customers online.

Export

Quebec should offer aid to develop foreign markets – Quebec pork has been well supported to go to export markets, spirits should have the same opportunities.

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  • 350%
    Each microdistillery bottle sold at the SAQ suffers an increase in taxes and markup of more than 350%, which leaves distillers less than 30% of the final sale price to cover production costs and generate a profit margin.

    Source: Quebec Union of Microdistilleries


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