“Our house is burning and we look elsewhere”said Jacques Chirac in 2002. Two decades later, numerous heat records have been broken around the world and “guarantee a livable and sustainable future for all”as requested by the latest IPCC report (PDF document), seems more and more difficult. But what have our political leaders done since the climate threat became known? As COP28 opens in Dubai, intended to take stock of the commitments made during the Paris Agreement, franceinfo gives the floor to those, within the government, who have tried to raise the issue of fighting against the climate crisis: environment ministers. They tell us about the gradual emergence of the problem, the blockages, but also the successes of this atypical ministry for more than forty years.