the government “is becoming more and more the toy of political parties”, analyzes a political scientist

“Macronie strategists have always considered that the next electoral events will be played out on the right,” assures Stéphane Zumsteeg, director of the Opinion department at the Ipsos polling institute, Wednesday December 20 on franceinfo.

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Prime Minister, Elisabeth Borne, at the National Assembly (Paris), November 17, 2023. (XOSE BOUZAS / HANS LUCAS / AFP)

The government “becomes more and more the plaything of political parties”, analyzed Wednesday December 20 on franceinfo Stéphane Zumsteeg, director of the Opinion department at the Ipsos polling institute. Marine Le Pen claimed a “ideological victory” after the vote Tuesday evening by the National Assembly of the text on immigration resulting from the joint committee (CMP).

On the left, we talk about a moral defeat. The rightization of government policy is “assumed” by Emmanuel Macron, according to him. “They have always considered that the next electoral events will be played out on the right”, explains Stéphane Zumsteeg. But this vote risks leaving “traces”, because “it’s not just people on the right who vote for Emmanuel Macron”he emphasizes.

franceinfo: is this a serious crisis for the executive?

Stéphane Zumsteeg: This is a real turning point in this second five-year term which took its time to really get going. The crisis will probably continue with very serious consequences within the majority. What fundamentally changed on Tuesday? On the one hand, parliamentary work will evolve. Until now, over the last 18 months, we have deplored the fact that the government has not succeeded in forming majorities, either project majorities or real coalitions. But today, it is much more serious for the executive. We had to wait until the last moment to find out what the Republicans were going to do. There was the surprise of the vote in favor of Marine Le Pen’s text. Today, the government not only cannot form majorities, but has also become hostage to political parties. This is very serious. I am not going to say that we are returning to the parliamentary instability of the Fourth Republic, but we can clearly see that now, the government will probably be in permanent fog for the next three years because the oppositions will play on it. It is increasingly becoming the toy of political parties.

Is this the end of the “at the same time” myth. The majority assumes its right-wing policy?

Yes, it is a strategic choice that is assumed, but somewhere that has been assumed for many years now. Macronie strategists, Emmanuel Macron at the forefront obviously, have always considered that the next electoral events will be played out on the right, between the center right and the extreme right. When we look today at what has happened in recent weeks within the framework of this bill, whether on the side of Gérald Darmanin, Eric Ciotti and now the National Rally which was excluded from the game until yesterday afternoon, there was a kind of race to see who would be the most die-hard. This is why this morning, a whole part of the political class, particularly on the left, but not only on the left, is also talking about moral defeat for the majority. These are things that will leave traces. Because electorally, it is not only people on the right who vote for Emmanuel Macron.

Can Emmanuel Macron refuse to promulgate this law?

We have seen such cacophony in recent weeks around this bill. When you hear Gérald Darmanin, he says that the majority held on, which is a big joke. A quarter of the deputies of this presidential majority abstained or voted against. If the President of the Republic were to finally decide on a second reading of this text and to somehow refuse the votes of the National Rally which spoke on Tuesday evening, this would add further confusion to the confusion. We’re starting to border on the ridiculous when we see everything that’s happened since last Monday, since the motion to reject.

Marine Le Pen claims an ideological victory. Is she right to do so?

Is this a “lepenization” of minds or simply a sign of a right-wing of the political class and part of the French when it comes to migration issues? Remember, 20-30 years ago, we had the right to talk about national preference, but it was constitutive of belonging to the extreme right. What defined the far right compared to other parties? They were for national preference and it was a taboo for others, including the Republican right today. For the large part of this axis which goes from the center to the extreme right, it is completely normal, ultimately, in the minds of politicians, to give more advantages to a French person than to a foreigner. . And that is totally new.


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